I've not heard of any bank or company issuing a card with credit card credentials, to anyone under the age of 18. I'd like to see some documentation on that, if you've got some handy. In order to be used in a 'credit' capacity, the legal requirements state you have to be 18 years old to face prosecution, in the event that it's used fraudulently. I've checked with my bank, and my credit companies to confirm this. However, in the wild west world of banking here in the U.S. I can certainly believe some crackpot bank would do something to stupid, and leave themselves wide open to lawsuits.
There's a good reason it's referred to as the 'age of consent'. Every legal contract I've seen, including credit card documentation specifically stated that minors could not be the primary account holder of a credit card, because they were not legally responsible under state laws.
The credit card thing is more of a joke, really, simply because it's far too easy for someone to use someone else's card. We really just need a solid way of verifying age. That's it.
A person under the age of 18 can get a hold of a credit card. They aren't the one's the card is billed to (Parents), but their credit card enables them to buy anything they want, sign up for paypal. Most of the major credit card companies seem to allow this ability. The parents are also given the ability to regulate the amount charged on those cards, but in almost every aspect it works as a credit card... All my friends have one (*cry*)... They're nice, but I love paying with cold hard cash...
By the email address - I only use my gmail one. I've long forgotten my ISP email address, and I really never do check that...
How about having options of verifying age like AirsoftCanada with meeting people, then, say having people show bills? I know to register for my school my parents had to provide an electric bill among house utilities. Would that be sufficient?
Or how about having a person take a picture with a random number/letters, and then having them post it within 5 minutes?
I'd be ok with giving you an ID, but with certain areas covered over eh?
Your statement about the credit card just confirms what I said; Minors cannot get a credit card on their own. Every instance you stated dealt with a child using a card that was owned or provided by their parents. The parents are the responsible parties for how the cards are used. Hence, if you were under 18, parental consent is required. Anyway, the credit card thing isn't a sure bet anyway, as I said before.
A face to face meet with anyone we authorize for verifying age is fine by me. The problem we'll have in the beginning is having someone close enough for you to do that with. As time goes on though, this method could work more efficiently. With the technology available today, it is pretty easy for someone to fake an ID. This is the main problem we face. Hence, further brainstorming will be required.
Meh. Just pointing out that a child could have a credit card, that could easily be used for "verifying age" even if the parents wouldn't want them to buy airsoft/know about them using that.
I get stupid Credit Cards offers in the mail too, I wonder how that happened -.-
Sig Man P225 Wrote:We could send you a receipt of a purchase of cigarettes, lotttery tickets, porno, or alchol...
heh, pron
you forgot a receipt for a lap dance
of course, the receipt wouldnt work because unless you pay with a card it wont show the name of the person paying and even if you do pay with card, a lot of times it still doesnt show your name, just the last digits of your card number (i just looked through a pile of receipts on my desk and most of them didnt have my name and all were paid for with card)
even if minors cannot get a credit card on their own, they can open a bank account and they will receive a Visa/Mastercard Debit card that can be charged as credit (i.e. doesnt require PIN only signature, etc) or like you said, use someone else's.
how would we send our id? like scan a copy/take pic and email? because if all you want is age verification, when we send in the id we could digitally block out/cover/black out/color over the important information such as license number and such. i think that would work, because you would have our other info like address and name anyways and this would just be another way to verify that. i wouldn't have a problem with that if we could cover our important info
edit: forgot to add this, but i too would prefer to not have to give two email address because i keep my business/offical one seperate from my personal one. beside i only check my business one about once every two weeks or so and i check my personal one about every other day. so for me that wouldnt even make sense.
We need to get this going... can we some agreement what action to take to get a member into verifed status?!
We will HAVE to have age verification in order to move someone to Verified Trader status. I'm open to suggestions on how to best accomplish this.
crackisbad Wrote:.....
how would we send our id? like scan a copy/take pic and email? because if all you want is age verification, when we send in the id we could digitally block out/cover/black out/color over the important information such as license number and such. i think that would work, because you would have our other info like address and name anyways and this would just be another way to verify that. i wouldn't have a problem with that if we could cover our important info
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if we can do what i mentioned above, i would have no problem with sending in a scanned copy of my DL. as long as we cover everything except for our address, age and name i think everything should be ok.
sooooo... can we get verified yet?
I'm still working on how best to do this, but I've been tied up with other things as of late. I know we need to get this done.
