Is there any interest in running postal matches similar to the AAPS ones, but for AEGs? Or maybe a multi-gun (2 gun, your race pistol/aeg combo?) sort of deal, like USPSA 3 gun?
Or am I the only one that builds a race gun aeg....
Sure!
I don't know if my AEG would qualify as a race gun though...
Ooh. We should do shotguns too... =P
I thought about including shotguns, but for the most part in airsoft, they're gonna be basically the same as running a rifle. Most 3 gun shooters are running autos for their scattergun, too.
If we keep it more open (most airsofters, even PS guys, don't have a shotgun), then we'll likely have more competition if we start something
We put this section up for this paticular reason.
Since there are a lot of milsim guys out there, we thought we might be able to interest them in practical shooting.
We might need someone to run the AEG matches.
ViciousV10s knows a lot more about AEGs than I do. But neither of us have any experience with LongGun/Rifle practical shooting. Can't be that much different though
the4thpower3 Wrote:We put this section up for this paticular reason.
Since there are a lot of milsim guys out there, we thought we might be able to interest them in practical shooting.
We might need someone to run the AEG matches.
ViciousV10s knows a lot more about AEGs than I do. But neither of us have any experience with LongGun/Rifle practical shooting. Can't be that much different though
Let me cut and paste you something from my ETAPSS AEG section:
Quote:AEG and Gas SMG - AEG and Gas SMG users can only fire in semi auto on the course. Any AEG and any Gas SMG can be used, regardless of modifications or attachments. All AEGs and Gas SMGs must have a sling or other retention device. Standard or low cap magazines are recommended.
Quote:Things to think about with AEG class:
I am no expert at AEG's or their use. For the most part I would think that shot accuracy will be the least of your problems in the ETAPSS AEG class. What you need to think about for your choice in AEG for ETAPSS is:
Rate of fire in semi auto mode. As you should know by now, you cannot use full auto fire in ETAPSS. BUT, ROF is still important, in that you still need to be able to get your shots off as fast as possible in semi auto mode. I don't know any more, but it used to be that the fasted cycling stock AEG's were those that used the Version 6 gearbox. So a P90 or Thompson may do weel. However, there is no limitation on upgrades for AEG class. The faster your AEG can cycle and the faster the reaction from trigger pull to shot time, the better it will be in ETAPSS.
Ergonomics and manueverablitly. Many if not all ETAPSS events will be focused on a close quarters layout. There will be a lot of corners to navigate, a lot of lean and fire shots, and a lot of multiple target shooting locations. This means the smaller your profile is, the easier you can navigate tight courses, and the lighter your AEG is the faster you can change lines of fire. Think about this when you choose your AEG for ETAPSS.
Sight picture. Picture this, your standing with your arms up, and your AEG slung to a chest harness. You have 4 different targets in front of you at the first shooting station. One is a sillhouette which requires 3 hits to the paper, and the other 3 are poppers that just need to be knocked over as fast as possible. Now, think about this, when you are aiming at the first target with your AEG... can you still see the other 3 in your periferal vision? I would hope so, cause your going to need to change your LOF fire and shoot them each in turn as fast as possible to get the best time. Think about this when you choose your AEG and/OR your optics.
Quote:2.) A weapon retention system. As it says in the Weapon Classes listed above, you will be REQUIRED to have a hoster, sling or weapon retention system. As NEARLY all courses start with the shooter at rest (meaning your weapon is NOT in your hand) you NEED a holster sling or weapon retention system.
While your at it, look at this:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=S8E2hNBCBOY (Pay special attention to everything after time code 1:40
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MtClk1Q2AnA
I'm interested in this as well, but my 'range' would probably end up being squirrels nailed to trees out here on my acreage.
Once I get my AEG I'll most likely set up a small, and very simple, postal range in my backyard. I'm thinking just a straight shot to several targets at a range of 10 yards or so. I'll film it when I get around to setting everything up.
hmm...AEG based one would be interesting, but difficult to setup anything longer than 15-20 ft for me.....running around in my backyard(in Canada) with something that looks like an assault rifle would draw some attention(worst yet, ouside of my yard is a public park)...
I was thinking something really simple to start out with, probably not too different from the pistol setup; just to get going.
Like: 3 targets, w/ two shots on each target, reload, 2 shots on each target, stop plate. I would say that the targets would be a "bust" type target, w/ a center torso and head shot required at each target, to bring the skill level up a bit.
How does that sound for an initial run, as a test? Too hard, too simple?
whitedingo Wrote:I was thinking something really simple to start out with, probably not too different from the pistol setup; just to get going.
Like: 3 targets, w/ two shots on each target, reload, 2 shots on each target, stop plate. I would say that the targets would be a "bust" type target, w/ a center torso and head shot required at each target, to bring the skill level up a bit.
How does that sound for an initial run, as a test? Too hard, too simple?
I would say that it would be interesting to see the difference in times between Pistol and AEG on the same course.
We already know that the accuracy between pistols and AEGs is not all that different at these short ranges.
In my ETAPSS courses that were very dynamic and involved a lot of physical movement from one station to another, the ability to line up on target after movement was apparently easier with AEGs than with pistols, even though that defies all reason. But the scores were definitively in favor of AEGs on my courses. It may have only been that those who attended my events were not yet practiced and skilled enough with pistols, due to their long time use of rifles in the field.
To start off, I think it would be best to have the AEG postal matches contain the same course design as the Pistol matches.